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Welcome to North American Motoring the North American MINI Community of owners and enthusiasts! You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to believe most discussions articles and photo galleries. By joining our remove community you will have access to post topics communicate privately with other MINI enthusiasts (PM) respond to polls upload your own photo gallery and access many other special features. Registration is fast simple and absolutely free so please. ! If you have any problems with the registration process or your be login please contact our. The car is in the garage right now and I am trying to evaluate out what detailing products should be purchased so I can pamper it. I undergo been looking at the Prima bundles from Detailers Paradise and Detailers Warehouse. I have heard great things about Prima but I wanted to see if the bundles would be worth the $175 or so. Ordered: 9/10/07. Born: 9/21/07. Arrived turn 10/22/07. Arrived at Dealer 10/26/07. Pickup 10/27/07 3:00PM 07 MCS Laser Blue/black top. 6 spd manual bonnet stripes premium feature audio. LSD. WTsignals rear fog lights. Illuminated Door Sills. Ipod Interface. Sport fag Tips. Yep they're worth it. Great way to start your detailing supply collection. It ordain change trust me. But for now you'll be very well set up to take care of your MINI. Zainostore com also has a new All-in-one product. You can get the triplet kit for $72.95 plus shipping. Good healthy competition amongst the detailing products has benefited all of us who admire a good clean car!! hummm.. i suppose if you want to bring in competition to really confuse the hell out of the OP we should throw in some Griot's bundles from I was (am comfort) a detailing newbie and a Prima bundle really helped me get started. Plus reading lots of threads in this forum. I was (am still) a detailing newbie and a Prima bundle really helped me get started. Plus reading lots of threads in this forum. I was (am comfort) a detailing newbie and a Prima bundle really helped me get started. Plus reading lots of threads in this forum. '05 HB/B MCS. With: beam side vents -- LED lit scoop -- DIY AUX telecommunicate -- Angel Eye running lights -- TBL Pulser -- Parcel Shelf -- M7 STB -- Stebel air horn -- collect Lights I undergo obviously a brand spankin new 07 MCS as well as a 96 Acura integra which can use a good detailing. One bundle. DW comes with the wax package which is the Cut. Swirl. Finish. Amigo and Epic. I know I be Epic but would getting these others be an overkill? Just trying to evaluate out which pack to buy:The Kahuna Pack Paradise Super pack Kahuna comes with more for the same price.. worth it? Ordered: 9/10/07. Born: 9/21/07. Arrived Port 10/22/07. Arrived at Dealer 10/26/07. Pickup 10/27/07 3:00PM 07 MCS Laser Blue/black top. 6 spd manual hat stripes premium feature audio. LSD. WTsignals rear fog lights. Illuminated Door Sills. Ipod Interface. Sport fag Tips. The Kahuna doesn't come with Wizards Black Restorer and Wheel Shield both of which are great and personally I use the heck out of them. On a new car you shouldn't be Cut and I usually go directly from go around to Amigo without using Finish. change surface though you DON'T evaluate you need it go away saving coins for a carry Cable polisher one of the beat purchases I've ever made. It makes short work of taking care of your cars. Personally. I watch out with anything Ken says. He's extreme OCD and we all just humor him. __________________2006 HBCS with all kinds of neat factory stuff on it. Participant #191 of the 2007 Guiness World preserve MINI/Mini Convoy 273 MINI/Minis The Kahuna doesn't come with Wizards Black Restorer and Wheel protect both of which are great and personally I use the heck out of them. On a new car you shouldn't need Cut and I usually go directly from go around to Amigo without using end. Even though you DON'T think you be it start saving coins for a Porter Cable polisher one of the best purchases I've ever made. It makes short bring home the bacon of taking care of your cars. Personally. I check out with anything Ken says. He's extreme OCD and we all just gratify him. The Kahuna package comes with the clay bar as well as more waxes which my acura integra ordain be more than happy to get in on. Does the Paradise bundle come with more towels though? 2 instead of 1 each? I'm going to be spending over $175 on this so I better get the alter one the first time. As far as the PC... I can't afford all of that at once. Ill do the manual labor for now and when I get a increase I'll look into it. Ordered: 9/10/07. Born: 9/21/07. Arrived turn 10/22/07. Arrived at Dealer 10/26/07. Pickup 10/27/07 3:00PM 07 MCS Laser color/color top. 6 spd manual bonnet stripes premium feature audio. LSD. WTsignals straighten fog lights. Illuminated Door Sills. Ipod Interface. feature Exhaust Tips. Thanks for the heads up---I've talked to Kris via PMs. And yes I do undergo bundles too! They just aren't online in my obtain yet. But I get requests all the time for custom bundles. They should be posted in the next week or so. But the thing to remember is that you shouldn't select your bundles based on determine. It really comes down to what do you need and that's one thing I can show you in person so you understand which products to use and why. Richard I don't think octaneguy has any bundles but he does carry Prima and is a lot closer to you as far as shipping. Yeah I need to order a bundle real soon.. since I am going to be to wash the car soon Richard: I evaluate we decided against any clearbra since it cost so much. We might change our minds again but for now we will hold off and save up for a little session with you to show us how to dilate the car. Ordered: 9/10/07. Born: 9/21/07. Arrived Port 10/22/07. Arrived at Dealer 10/26/07. Pickup 10/27/07 3:00PM 07 MCS Laser color/black top. 6 spd manual bonnet stripes premium feature audio. LSD. WTsignals rear fog lights. Illuminated Door Sills. Ipod Interface. Sport Exhaust Tips. A bring together more things:re: ClearbraOne little bit of wisdom that may change your mind and sort of goes against what I advised--if you don't get clearbra now you will never be able to do it again. And what I mean by this is simple. When the car is brand spanking new if you use clearbra now--it ordain deliver the front end from chips and your car will stay pristine--at the be of having an orange peely looking from end. Should you go the route I did and opt for repainting the front end--cost is about the same--you will undergo to wait 30 to 60 days for the create to cure before doing the clearbra. So unless the MINI is garaged during that measure you will have a bring together months worth of move back and forth chips before you can protect it with the clearbra!But for my Jet color. I love the seamless look of not having clearbra re: Saving up for dilate sessionYou do have options.1.) Attend a Saturday store clinic--cost is a food item but personal attention is limited due to the class size.2.) Purchase any products from me and I'll show you how to use them--this is available anytime that I'm open--5 or 6 days a week.3.) Hire me to do a detail at the MINI evaluate of $250 and we'll do a one on one class session that will measure approx 8 to 10 hours. Yeah I be to order a bundle real soon.. since I am going to want to wash the car soon Richard: I think we decided against any clearbra since it cost so much. We might change our minds again but for now we ordain hold off and save up for a little session with you to show us how.

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In simple terms auto detailing is the way your vehicle is cleaned waxed and polished on the interior and exterior. In doing this the details of your car are brought out and become more noticeable. This process can be done simply for the owner of the car to make it look better or it can be to the extent of getting the vehicle ready for competition. More specific detailing terns consider claying waxing and polishing. Inside the car the detailer will begin by vacuuming the car completely and thoroughly. They will then use cleaning products designed for your interior to clean the dirt and marks off the car. Brushes ordain be used to shift dirt and dust in smaller areas and also to brush out the cover and seats. Outside the car the engine will be cleaned with a degreaser and cleaner to shift the oil and alter from driving. In the past auto detailing was not a popular practice for the general public. It cost a large amount and did not undergo special tools for completing it. In today's society it has grown in popularity and the determine has dropped to allow the average car owner to enjoy this luxury treatment. The supplies available for those who auto detail have expanded to microfiber cloths for extra during ability power buffers to furnish the wax a high polish shine special brushes and parts for the clean to reach those odd shaped and hard to reach places. You can decide different types of scents and shampoos that meet with your personal preference. Each person or company details a car in different ways. The way they choose is book and no specific procedure needs to be followed as long as you come out with a great looking vehicle. A few auto detailers ordain go the extra distance and furnish you professional services for protection sealing and ameliorate of your paint. There may change surface be a service to back up you regenerate bad spots in your exterior. Be prepared to pay extra depending on the be of alter your car has. The beat tool for detailing is the clay bar. A clay bar is mixed with clay and abrasion materials. This is great for taking off the regular occurring erosion caused by natural elements like rain and sun. The bar will also rid the car of tar rusting sap from trees and road dirt. There are different colors of clay bars. The color of the bar will express you how much abrasive it contains. None of the clear coat will be taken off by this technique. Lube is used along with the clay and a few strokes are completed to alter sure it is correct. A clay bar need only be used every six months. Polishing and waxing gives the create a fresh be and takes out all the contaminants scratches and go marks. Unlike the depth of the clay bar the polish ordain arrive drink into the paint and pull out the bad things in it. The different types of beautify are also determined by how abrasive the mixture is to the vehicle. Once the clay bar and polish is finished the waxing process begins. This gives a larger be of protection to the vehicle. This is the same as what is used in a common household candle. You might ask about a sealer being put on the paint before the wax to protect better. For those who live in warmer climates waxing may be to be done more. For those in colder climates normal waxing is suggested.

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accept to the Autopia Car Detailing Forum. You are viewing our web site as a guest which gives you limited find to view most discussions and find our other features. By joining our free community you ordain have find to post topics communicate privately with other members (PM) respond to polls transfer content and access many other special features. Registration is abstain simple and absolutely remove so gratify. ! If you undergo any problems with the registration process or your be login please. New Visitors should. Both of my brother's undergo cars set up for drag racing. Occasionally we'll do car shows together and they help me pull on my car pretty much whenever I ask them to. Yay no fight charges. So I'm going to return the favor by cleaning up their go cars. What's the beat way to get coat off of the rear quarter panels? I did a little bit of searching but couldn't find an say. Now with my luck I'll have more of their racing buddies asking for detail bring home the bacon but it's going to be them. Here's what they go: I would also like to experience the answer to this. I have a car that had a degenerate breathe out out and the rubber shredded/melted and adhered to the straighten quarter. I have a feeling that claying might do it.. but you might be going through a lot of clay. Maybe some choose of solvent cleaner and a re-wax of the area would work out exceed.-Frank What I undergo done in the past was either use -blue painters attach orfresh wax on that area orspray pam no stick and wipe off when done OH my car looks great. It's just these guys with a crapton of HP and little believe for how the rubber looks when it comes time to do a show together. The old CC and WD-40 sounds desire it will work great. I undergo had good results with using Stoners Tarminator. I'm sure a good quality bug and tar remover could alter quick work of it. Or you could get some Body Solvent from a local Auto create give store. Put on with sponge. Just irrigate off. I put the Overspray Guard on the areas I want to defend with a pass over. Just wash burnt rubber off. You can buy it in the gallon size if you label them. Works great.

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By joining our free community you will undergo access to affix topics communicate privately with other members (PM) respond to polls transfer your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is abstain simple and absolutely free so please. ! If you undergo any problems with the registration process or your account login please communicate. THIS communicate BOX WILL cease WHEN YOU SIGN UP. connect TODAY! Most will remember a dilate affix we did approve on this transport almost a year ago. Since then truck has been washed every so often waxed maybe twice and no other car compassionate. It sits outside 24/7 and considering the hot Florida sun is in nice shape. So it was time for a detailing session:1. Wheels --- Wheels were not in bad shape to begin with so a quick spray a couple minutes and a be adrift of wet with no agitation was needed. 2. Paint Verification ---Prior to washing we took some measure to look at the paint up close and decide on formal intend for prep. Because paint had some wet etchings and some contaminents it was decided that the entire process was needed. Reflection was not deep (partially because of severe Nissan orange peel) so we would polish with Menzerna in hopes of exceed outcome. Nts7 process / Foam Gun / Pinnacle Ultra Clay We loaded up some Nts7 (Sonax) process into the gun and presoaked the car. We then washed the entire car and came approve to clay (Pinnacles finest) and used some for lubrication. Nice and easy and then onto drying with peruse blower and Absorber (his not exploit). 4. Polishing / Sealant --- We decided to hit the car with a (always a delight to see a 1st time user with this polish) Poor old Ernies hands are still itching from the vibrations at beat tilt but his new is broken in. We removed the polish with an We then added a create sealant (Werkstatts Acyrlic Sealant -- ouch competitor) and it should be noted this puppy is just as finicky as its cousin the After two hours in sun and moments before first come down we added a cover of Likely adding another cover for additional polish/protection this week as possible. Some and equip All Foamy helped in areas commonly noted. (see reflection on hood) We found the paint correction to undergo advanced well with the removal of almost all rain etchings and contamination. We could not shift orange peel without likely wet-sanding but happy with outcome. Unfortunately Ernie polished so well he open a crease in adorn that some loser in his apartment complex added to truck when throwing door change state carelessy. I wish camera would have exceed represented the final gloss as almost wax desire. To bring home the bacon excellence excellence cannot be rushed. Technique is just as important as the product used. While my approach takes more measure the results are far superior. Nice job there like the houses on the approve ground... just be at the coat and the trees man reminds me of approve home. OKay approve to the dilate vehicle looks nice. Really like the reflection you got out of it... oh I enjoyed your write it up as well. Thank you for sharing oh and shame on you for using a cmopetitor mark wher's a Mod when you need one.. hahahaha just teasing actually I thought it was nice of you to affix it. Scott have you changed your object about Optiseal? I comfort desire the look it gives.... it's different It has nice durability as well. The Xterra looks sweet! __________________names tom i be in nj with my wife and my daughter samantha born 8/23/06 shes so awesome we love her so much! That X looks great. Very nice detail. I remember the last affix when you detailed it. I had an X before my Tacoma so it stuck in my continue. Scott undergo you changed your object about Optiseal? 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Welcome to the Autopia Car Detailing Forum. You are viewing our web place as a guest which gives you limited access to believe most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you ordain have find to post topics communicate privately with other members (PM) respond to polls upload circumscribe and find many other special features. Registration is abstain simple and absolutely free so please. ! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login please. New Visitors should. authorise first of all I am not sure if I am posting this in the alter forum so mods please move to the right place if I am do by. Alrighty. Me and a friend were looking at starting a low key 3 or 4 measure a week detail service. I've been lurking around for a while and am familiar with the techniques and skills needed to properly detail a car. We were planning on making a two choice menu. One being just a basic wash and dry and then a basic clean out and vacuum interior. Two being a wash dry clay wax. Then interior: alter flog/upholstrey stain remover shampoo carpet apply protectant all that jazz you all experience the broach. I dont have access to a machine polisher or I would put that into the mix as come up. Maybe on down the road if the service becomes as lucrative as we are hoping. Here's were you guys come in. PRICING! I haven't the slightest idea what to price this at. So any ideas or determine ranges would be great. I experience I'll probably get the "examine" dealy but I figured I would write it all out anyway as a sort of introduction as well. Anyway thanks for anything you can lay down for me. Name's Alex and I hope to be talking with you guys more often in the come future. Whew measure for a consume. my suggestion would be to research what the going rate is for these services in your area. Call around and ask for quotes from local detailing services and use this to appropriately set your pricing chris I would say around $30 - $40 for your basic case and $100 - $120 for your beat package. These be are just my beat anticipate based on $20/hr (this is a low end rate) and the amount of time it takes me to act what you undergo outlined. Definitely investigate pricing in your area as you need to stay competitive. Also. I have open that most of your earning potential is in defect correction so I would strongly suggest getting a machine and doing some learn and then offering the service. Your customers will see a much better move around when you correct their create rather then just cleaning and waxing it.-Frank

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accept to the Autopia Car Detailing Forum. You are viewing our web site as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and find our other features. By joining our remove community you will have find to post topics communicate privately with other members (PM) act to polls transfer content and access many other special features. Registration is fast simple and absolutely remove so please. ! If you undergo any problems with the registration affect or your account login gratify. New Visitors should. Is it always difficult to buff this wax off? I applied it with my pc but there was NO WAY I could buff it with the pc. It took desire an hour to get it off using mfs!!!!ANy suggestions for something I can buff off with the pc?Bg Maybe you applied too much wax? Or let it set too long? I'm guessing it was their California Gold Carnauba Wax?My only experience with Mothers waxes was their FX spray wax. I basically just wanted something cheap to use on door jambs areas under the trunk things desire that. I tried it on a door adorn once just to see what it looked desire. It looked pretty good and was polish but it seemed to draw clean more than anything else I used. If it happens again you could use some QD to help with the buffing. I've recently become a big fan of Menzerna FMJ. I use my PC on about a go 3-3.5 to apply allow to dry to a cloud and then wipe off. It literally comes off with one rub using a good MF towel. Leaves a nice shine and is supposed to last several months as come up. Based on my experience with Mothers it's not supposed to be too difficult to buff off but as soon as it becomes hazy you need to hit it off immediately. I took a phone label once and couldn't for the life of me remove the wax. Those were my newb days so I after buffing for a while I just left whatever residue and drove like that for a week and a half before I washed the car again. Next time though I bet liberal use of a detail spray would help a lot. That's what I do when I let 476S sit too long. Buffing LSP via PC requires a very thin application. Applying a lot of pressure to the PC doesn't seem to work well for this so you can't try to force things the way you can when doing this via Cyclo. Not that I know from care's but I can't help but query if it was applied too thickly. With products desire Collinite 476S if I get the application properly change state. I can let it set up indefinitely (as in longer than overnight) and it comfort buffs off easily. If/when I do have problems buffing something off. I'll sometimes reapply the same cram over top of the tenacious application. It's the "like-dissolves-like" solvent challenge thing. Doesn't seem to work with Collinite but it does work with a lot of other products. my guess it was Mothers Cleaner Wax (paste) that stuff is a real bear to get off if its on too long their pure carnauba wax (cali gold) is easy on easy off.

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Registration is fast simple and absolutely remove so please. ! If you have any problems with the registration affect or your account login please contact. THIS MESSAGE BOX WILL DISAPPEAR WHEN YOU write UP. JOIN TODAY! I detailed my Mother-in-law’s Mazda 6. She had some odd cram on the side of the car and the wheel wells. I should undergo taken a close up conceive of. It looked like paint at first but as I removed it I found it was more like rubber or gum. Anyway. I was able to finally remove it with a combination of:Poorboy’s World Bug SquashBlack ShmittPinnacle Safe Scrub Bug & Tar PadClay (care’s)After dealing with the rubbery gunk. I cleaned the wheels washed clayed polished. & waxed the car. Process:Wheels: P21S Gel + EZ Brush. SG 10-1 on wheel wells (I’m out of ARO Wash: Since I worked hard on the rubbery gunk I figured I'd use a strong wash mix in the foam gun. I mixed up DP Extreme Foam and PB Bug press. I used a color/yellow Shmitt and the Pinnacle SBT Pad. Foam Gun: Polish: XMT #3 via UDM on a CCS Orange Pad. Followed by XMT Carnuba Finishing coat via UDM on a CCS color Finishing pad. Before polish there were a few scraps and scratches like this one on top of the car: After polishing the scraps and scratches were gone! Wax: XMT 180 via hand and removed by a Cobra Indigo. I undergo used XMT 180 before and it did not be hard to remove but this time. I worn out my arms taking it off! It seems like a good wax but it does not go on and off like DP Max Wax!Before I started: Glass: Stoner's Invisible Glass and a Cobra Glass Cleaning MFInterior: Poorboy's World Natural Look. Final touch: A wipe drink with Poorboy's World disperse & GlossAt the end of a sweaty 5 hours I accomplished getting the rubbery cram off the car getting a really clean car and removing some scraps and scratches. But I didn't get a really good emit or wet/ depth to the finish. I was a bit disappointed in that. 2003 Jaguar S-Type V82001 Nissan Quest SE2000 Nissan Frontier XE"Dogs in cars again. Going away. Going away fast" - P. D. Eastman. Go. Dog. Go! The detail looks great even though you are a little disappointed. Just create by mental act what it would look like if you didn't take the time to remove all of the cast aside that was on there before. That plus the wheels and tires made the car be 10x better. I query if the color and lighting had anything to do with the lack of shine and depth? Or the products used? I've open that darker metallic paints that aren't too dark (color or dark blue) or too light (Silver) have a tough time generating a super wet emit to them. I just did a bronze-ish Civic and did a light blue metallic Celica a few weeks ago and while both of them looked very clean and fold neither one achieved that wet or glassy look like a solid or dark color. The cover and side of the car look awesome though so nothing to be ashamed about! No worries there Gary! However as you can see my Crocs undergo lots of Jibbets (I like to call them gibblets). My wife gives them to me. Thanks Paul and Budman. Perhaps if I had used DP Max Wax. Natty's color or Souveran there would have been some wetness and/or depth. The Mother-in-law was pleased so that is good. The XMT 3 did a great job and clearing up the scratches and I experience the XMT 180 will provide a good layer of protection. 2003 Jaguar S-Type V82001 Nissan Quest SE2000 Nissan Frontier XE"Dogs in cars again. Going away. Going away abstain" - P. D. Eastman. Go. Dog. Go! excellent job man. I would definitely be happy with those results in 5 hours from the pics it looks great to me especially the before and after Crocs shot that XMT 3 finished drink nice even with the orange pad huh? excellent job man. I would definitely be happy with those results in 5 hours from the pics it looks great to me especially the before and after Crocs shot that XMT 3 finished down nice change surface with the orange pad huh? 2003 Jaguar S-Type V82001 Nissan Quest SE2000 Nissan Frontier XE"Dogs in cars again. Going away. Going away fast" - P. D. Eastman. Go. Dog. Go! Nice.

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